Thursday, November 13, 2014

auto-erotic and the Daimon, computer, or shadow

Socrates famously had a Daimon that warned him against mistakes (It didn't tell him what to do, which is important for me to note because I've worked with several patients who hear a voice that tells them what to do). Nietzsche often waxed poetic about the wanderer and his shadow and being in dialogues with himself.

Just as the auto-erotic came from masturbation and the idea that one can take something that seems made for two people and procreation and do it alone so too does sociality which seems made for a minimum of two seem bypassed here. (It's important to say that I've found ties to the importance of masturbation in the phallic stage and that the auto-erotic isn't its only determinant. It's likely that masturbation isn't the auto-erotic stage's best exemplar but it still makes sense to think of someone regressing back from object love to a place where they satisfy themselves and don't even try to be with someone real as a natural path to pathology).

There have been a couple movies: Jonze's Her and Interstellar where both an object drive and ego drive relationship with a robot or AI is involved. Normally I would have guessed that the interaction with a robot would be indicative of the egoistic pole but for me the importance of Plato and Nietzsche give to studying different types of people makes them clearly altruists and the relationship in Her is idealizing and altruistic (the symptom reading makes it a relationship he has with himself and his own creativity) and in Interstellar too it's a humorous and affable relationship.

At heart, the relationship in general seems to be one of play, which seems the complete parallel of masturbation in which one takes back all ego drives and object drives to act out those things whether with toys or through a story or capturing an event of the story in a drawing or song....

While play would have to be universally experienced the above philosophers and artists are no doubt illustrating an auto-erotic deutero stage in the altruist in which a perpetual attitude of play that is deepened to feeling like one is in dialogue with oneself... or in which one is constantly brought to think against oneself, or, as in Her, where the main character is playing games in public seemingly at the behest of his AI girlfriend but is really egging himself on.





 

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